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SUMMARY Ó In the Graveyard of Empires America's War in Afghanistan CHARACTERS In the Graveyard of Empires America's War in Afghanistan L research on insurgencies and integrating thousands of declassified government documents Jones shows how the siphoning of resources to Ira left US and NATO forces in Afghanistan ineffectual and without support Through interviews with prominent figures including ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad and commander Karl Eikenberry Jones explains how a growing sanctuary for. A intro level overview to the mess we have gotten to in Afghanistan It comes in from a journalist point of view instead that of a historian imaging a long form writeup in the New York Times and you won t be far off the markThe book opens with some historical background on past empires and their travails in Afghanistan Alexander the Great British in 19th Century Soviets in the 20th It then goes from the initial US invasion in 2001 until about 2009 therefore it does not cover revent development like the capture of Bin Laden for exampleIt is a depressing book to read The tone of the book is very impartial and matter of fact but a reader can not help with hind sight and even some historical foresight shake their heads on some of the short sighted decisions made and how they eventually failsKey Take aways1 Afghanistan has a culture since antiuity of localtribal governance that tends to ignore the central authority This means a top down approach to pacify the country is hard going to begin with and does not have any past success scenario to look to2 NATO was ineffective due to its fractured command structure and the conflicting interests of its members3 Because of 1 above the central government doesn t have the natural legitimacy and authority it needs Government soldercivil servants are often just a job and not a calling like that of the Taliban4 Key to control the country is controlling its rural areas and the government is losing Government troops can not be counted on to be there when needed and the Taliban reps are RIGHT THERE5 Pakistan is a key partner to the Taliban this is not a typo and unless they are taken out of the euation situation will never improve6 This is a nation building exercise coupled with a counter insurgence operation Unless we lower the goal post the goals can not be met with the limited resources we committed to itGiven that the conflict is still ongoing with no sign of being settled anytime soon anyone with an opinion can not help to play arm chair uarterback on what should ve been done if we were to go in So here s minea light foot printlong duration Smaller number of troops be prepared to be there for 10 years staying in place in major cities like Kabualb Forget about chasing Taliban in the provinces Limit our operations to hunting down specific Al aeda types in the NW Frontier provincesc More effective dealing with Pakistan not sure about details here maybe play the India cardd More money channeled into civilian nation building instead of military ops ie cheaper in the long run Build up Afghan police civil servant system justice system etce THrough hook and crook gradually improve the corrupt Afghan government Many US allies of old who were corrupt despots eventually transformed into semi democratic societies so there is hopeMore Radicalf Partition the country into ethnic lines The countries border was an artificial construct anyway Does not solve the fundemental problem but simplifies it by taking the Afghan central government out of the picture The Body Bears the Burden: Trauma, Dissociation, and Disease government documents Jones shows how the siphoning of resources to Ira left US and NATO forces in Afghanistan ineffectual and without support Through interviews with prominent figures including ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad and commander Karl Eikenberry Jones explains how a Playing for Keeps: Michael Jordan and the World He Made growing sanctuary for. 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In the Graveyard of Empires America's War in Afghanistan

SUMMARY Ó In the Graveyard of Empires America's War in Afghanistan CHARACTERS In the Graveyard of Empires America's War in Afghanistan Insurgents in Pakistan and a collapsing government in Kabul catalyzed the Taliban resurgence Examining what has worked thus far and what hasn't Jones argues that we must take a radically new approach to the war if the United States is to avoid the disastrous fate that has befallen every world power to enter the region from Alexander the Great to the Soviet Uni. Published in 2009 and missing the Obama years entirely In the Graveyard of Empires would have been aptly subtitled Bush s War in Afghanistan Such is the difficulty of writing history as events unfold even into the present day As it is the book misses important post 2009 events like the subseuent surge in troop levels through 2010 substantial increases in drone strikes the raid and killing of Osama bin Laden the 2014 Afghan presidential elections the Peshawar massacre in December 2014 and the end of direct Western combat actions in 2015All of the above aside the 2001 2009 narrative presented by Seth Jones is articulate comprehensively footnoted and on point in many of its assessments A RAND fellow and professor of counterinsurgency Jones writes like an academic and Graveyard certainly reads as such This is not a thriller nor is it an opinion piece but nor is it meant to be This is a facts and points approach of the light footprint turned counterterrorism turned counterinsurgency operation Jones does a fine job of reserving judgment until the final chapter The book is littered with direct uotes from interviews of high ranking officials of all parties involved These interviews bring to life the facts and figures and further emphasize the human component of warfightingAs noted the book misses out on a further six years of combat operations from 2009 2014 that have significantly altered the course of action in Afghanistan Considering this limitation it is hard to recommend Graveyard as the complete history of America s war in Afghanistan as the subtitle suggests A seuel to the book summarizing the Obama years or at the very least a 2nd Edition with an additional chapter or two would be well deserved The Manga Artist's Workbook: Chibis: Easy to Follow Lessons for Drawing Super-cute Characters government in Kabul catalyzed the Taliban resurgence Examining what has worked thus far and what hasn't Jones argues that we must take a radically new approach to the war if the United States is to avoid the disastrous fate that has befallen every world power to enter the region from Alexander the Great to the Soviet Uni. Published in 2009 and missing the Obama years entirely In the Graveyard of Empires would have been aptly subtitled Bush s War in Afghanistan Such is the difficulty of writing history as events unfold even into the present day As it is the book misses important post 2009 events like the subseuent surge in troop levels through 2010 substantial increases in drone strikes the raid and killing of Osama bin Laden the 2014 Afghan presidential elections the Peshawar massacre in December 2014 and the end of direct Western combat actions in 2015All of the above aside the 2001 2009 narrative presented by Seth Jones is articulate comprehensively footnoted and on point in many of its assessments A RAND fellow and professor of counterinsurgency Jones writes like an academic and Graveyard certainly reads as such This is not a thriller nor is it an opinion piece but nor is it meant to be This is a facts and points approach of the light footprint turned counterterrorism turned counterinsurgency operation Jones does a fine job of reserving judgment until the final chapter The book is littered with direct uotes from interviews of high ranking officials of all parties involved These interviews bring to life the facts and figures and further emphasize the human component of warfightingAs noted the book misses out on a further six years of combat operations from 2009 2014 that have significantly altered the course of action in Afghanistan Considering this limitation it is hard to recommend Graveyard as the complete history of America s war in Afghanistan as the subtitle suggests A seuel to the book summarizing the Obama years or at the very least a 2nd Edition with an additional chapter or two would be well deserved

CHARACTERS In the Graveyard of Empires America's War in Afghanistan

SUMMARY Ó In the Graveyard of Empires America's War in Afghanistan CHARACTERS In the Graveyard of Empires America's War in Afghanistan A definitive account of the American experience in Afghanistan from the rise of the Taliban to the depths of the insurgencyLongtime Afghanistan expert and RAND analyst Seth G Jones watched as American optimism evaporated after the Taliban defeat in 2001; by 2005 a new war of a thousand cuts had brought Afghanistan to its knees Harnessing important new historica. Seth G Jones is a senior political scientist at the RAND corporation as in Research AND Development not that other Rand He worked in the Defense Department for a couple of years and has taught classes on counter terrorism issues since 2002 at Georgetown and since 2005 at the US Naval Postgraduate School He has also written on nation building His stated goal in this book is to understand the motivations of the key actors and to assess what factors contributed to the rise of Afghanistan s insurgency If policy analysis is your cup of chai this will serve you nicely Jones has met with a host of relevant parties to the unpleasantness both historical and ongoing in Afghanistan and that region He offers an academic analysis of what underlies problems with nation building there citing a list of the usual suspects and arrives at a place that might strike some as unexpected Why do so many people support the Taliban Is it inherent religious extremism or are there other reasons What is Pakistan s role in the persistent problems of its neighbor What are Pakistan s goals and how do their actions reflect them How might the West promote stability and freedom from tyranny in Afghanistan If you are new to the subject this is not a bad introduction although I would recommend Ahmed Rashid s Descent into Chaos as a better intro to the area If you have read a fair bit about Afghanistan and that region there is little here that is new in his overview Jones cites many many sources and a lot of them are familiar Yes we know that Pakistan is interested in maintaining Afghanistan as a buffer against India We know that they have supported and continue to support the Taliban We know that the central government in Afghanistan is corruptBut aside from the broader strokes Jones drills down to some revelatory information For example he offers profiles of some of the significant warlords in Afghanistan He presents telling details in other areas such as the structure of how Al a ida communicates He goes into specifics about the ISI which is associated with the military and the Pakistani Frontier Corps which reports to an entirely other ministry and their roles not only in supporting the Taliban but in attacking western forces He talks about the light footprint notion espoused by Donald Rumsfeld and shows how that affected the ability of the military to pacify the nation and begin rebuilding A particularly interesting bit of data was a comparison of the number of personnel used in other post war scenarios to pacify the entire country and provide security The role of the US vis a vis other Western nations regarding developing an Afghani police force is illuminating His view of insurgency as a parallel attempt at nation building and not merely as a negative force is fascinating He also looks at how some post colonial governments had not been properly prepared for independence thus leading to structural weakness and susceptibility to internal disruption And Jones points out many instances in which American penny wise pound foolish policies allowed the continuation and expansion of significant national problems Jones wonkish appreciation for policy details is most welcome He writes about Al a ida as a force multiplier insisting that it is well incorporated into the Taliban and that the Taliban will should it regain power return to providing a safe haven for an organization that Jones insists offers a strategic threat to the US It sounds like he is making a case that any acceptance of Taliban control of Afghanistan partial or whole would necessarily mean attacks on the West from that base of operations The implication is a need for continuing probably increased Western military presence there In critiuing what is wrong in Afghanistan one of the key problems is corruption If people feel no trust in their police judges military or government why should they not support someone or some group outside government Although it was beyond the purview of this book it does seem that the generic notion of a public loss of confidence in government impartiality honesty and willingness and ability to deliver services has implications well beyond those in AfghanistanIt is his take that top down nation building in Afghanistan is exactly the wrong approach It would seem that so far at least the evidence bears him out But if we in the West remain unwilling to invest resources in building up from below what is leftOne pet peeve I had with the book was that Jones introduces two voices Zalmay Khalilzad and Ronald Neumann into his narrative intermittently While their involvement in the affairs of Afghanistan as diplomats was significant telling us about their early careers seemed thrown in It struck me as a bit of in house politicking by Jones who has connections to both men Another gripe is that he seems to be trying as best he can to place outside the White House responsibility for a lack of investment in Afghanistan after the removal from power of the Taliban citing specifically resistance from the department of OMB Under an increasingly imperial Bush presidency it defies reason that a program the White House wanted could be hindered by OMB The president could simply inform the OMB director of his wishes and make it clear that remaining in his post was contingent on satisfying the person who put him there It is the occasional item like this one that instilled in me a feeling of caution while reading the book If a purely political motive informed the writing of this piece how many other less obvious examples might there be tucked away in the crevices Thankfully I did not find enough of these ticking devices to fully counter the overall value of the book Jones has added thoughtful analysis to a broad view of Afghanistan history and current 2009 goings on to hone a pointed set of recommendations for securing progress in this battered nation that are worth considering Defect goal in this book is to understand the motivations of the key actors and to assess what factors contributed to the rise of Afghanistan s insurgency If policy analysis is your cup of chai this will serve you nicely Jones has met with a host of relevant parties to the unpleasantness both historical and ongoing in Afghanistan and that region He offers an academic analysis of what underlies problems with nation building there citing a list of the usual suspects and arrives at a place that might strike some as unexpected Why do so many people support the Taliban Is it inherent religious extremism or are there other reasons What is Pakistan s role in the persistent problems of its neighbor What are Pakistan s Ethical Decisions for Social Work Practice goals and how do their actions reflect them How might the West promote stability and freedom from tyranny in Afghanistan If you are new to the subject this is not a bad introduction although I would recommend Ahmed Rashid s Descent into Chaos as a better intro to the area If you have read a fair bit about Afghanistan and that region there is little here that is new in his overview Jones cites many many sources and a lot of them are familiar Yes we know that Pakistan is interested in maintaining Afghanistan as a buffer against India We know that they have supported and continue to support the Taliban We know that the central Apprendre à programmer avec Python 3 (Noire) (French Edition) government in Afghanistan is corruptBut aside from the broader strokes Jones drills down to some revelatory information For example he offers profiles of some of the significant warlords in Afghanistan He presents telling details in other areas such as the structure of how Al a ida communicates He Witch at Heart: The Jinx Hamilton Series - Book 1 goes into specifics about the ISI which is associated with the military and the Pakistani Frontier Corps which reports to an entirely other ministry and their roles not only in supporting the Taliban but in attacking western forces He talks about the light footprint notion espoused by Donald Rumsfeld and shows how that affected the ability of the military to pacify the nation and begin rebuilding A particularly interesting bit of data was a comparison of the number of personnel used in other post war scenarios to pacify the entire country and provide security The role of the US vis a vis other Western nations regarding developing an Afghani police force is illuminating His view of insurgency as a parallel attempt at nation building and not merely as a negative force is fascinating He also looks at how some post colonial Drawing Cutting Edge Anatomy: The Ultimate Reference for Comic Book Artists governments had not been properly prepared for independence thus leading to structural weakness and susceptibility to internal disruption And Jones points out many instances in which American penny wise pound foolish policies allowed the continuation and expansion of significant national problems Jones wonkish appreciation for policy details is most welcome He writes about Al a ida as a force multiplier insisting that it is well incorporated into the Taliban and that the Taliban will should it regain power return to providing a safe haven for an organization that Jones insists offers a strategic threat to the US It sounds like he is making a case that any acceptance of Taliban control of Afghanistan partial or whole would necessarily mean attacks on the West from that base of operations The implication is a need for continuing probably increased Western military presence there In critiuing what is wrong in Afghanistan one of the key problems is corruption If people feel no trust in their police judges military or United Methodist Hymnal Dark Red government why should they not support someone or some Tokyo Ghoul - Tome 05 (Tokyo Ghoul, 5) group outside The Body Bears the Burden: Trauma, Dissociation, and Disease government Although it was beyond the purview of this book it does seem that the Playing for Keeps: Michael Jordan and the World He Made generic notion of a public loss of confidence in The Forbidden Groom: Texas Titan Romances (Texas Titan Football Collection) government impartiality honesty and willingness and ability to deliver services has implications well beyond those in AfghanistanIt is his take that top down nation building in Afghanistan is exactly the wrong approach It would seem that so far at least the evidence bears him out But if we in the West remain unwilling to invest resources in building up from below what is leftOne pet peeve I had with the book was that Jones introduces two voices Zalmay Khalilzad and Ronald Neumann into his narrative intermittently While their involvement in the affairs of Afghanistan as diplomats was significant telling us about their early careers seemed thrown in It struck me as a bit of in house politicking by Jones who has connections to both men Another The Lives of the Artists (Oxford World's Classics) gripe is that he seems to be trying as best he can to place outside the White House responsibility for a lack of investment in Afghanistan after the removal from power of the Taliban citing specifically resistance from the department of OMB Under an increasingly imperial Bush presidency it defies reason that a program the White House wanted could be hindered by OMB The president could simply inform the OMB director of his wishes and make it clear that remaining in his post was contingent on satisfying the person who put him there It is the occasional item like this one that instilled in me a feeling of caution while reading the book If a purely political motive informed the writing of this piece how many other less obvious examples might there be tucked away in the crevices Thankfully I did not find enough of these ticking devices to fully counter the overall value of the book Jones has added thoughtful analysis to a broad view of Afghanistan history and current 2009 A Level Chemistry a for OCR Student Bookstudent Book goings on to hone a pointed set of recommendations for securing progress in this battered nation that are worth considering


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    PDF In the Graveyard of Empires America's War in Afghanistan Seth G. Jones Ñ 1 SUMMARY This was a good one but I was hoping for The book is titled Graveyard of Empire's but I should have paid closer attention to the second portion of the title America's War I was hoping for a bit of the background of the Empires which was so prominently displayed in the title I was hoping of Alexander's campaigns The unruly subjects o

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    CHARACTERS In the Graveyard of Empires America's War in Afghanistan Seth G. Jones Ñ 1 SUMMARY PDF In the Graveyard of Empires America's War in Afghanistan A briefuseful though not essential recap of Afghanistan's military history He identifies the war's many successes and failures Mainly I was looking for some info on the 2001 portion but there wasn't loads of new info there It is technical heavily footnoted and challenging for the average reader that knows little about the region or war in generalJones also exposes Pakistan's frustrating role in the Afghan wars A number of political dilemmas

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    CHARACTERS In the Graveyard of Empires America's War in Afghanistan PDF In the Graveyard of Empires America's War in Afghanistan REVIEW ✓ BOLLYWOODPARKS.CO Ñ Seth G. Jones Really fascinating book about the various empires throughout history which have tried to conuer Afghanistan only to be repelled The basis of this historical lesson is to give context to America's current uamire Book is rela

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    PDF In the Graveyard of Empires America's War in Afghanistan Jones is good on the structure of the Afghan opposition to first the USSR and now the US This is a useful although not essential addition to the literature Based on good access to a number of important sources including ambassador Zalmay Khal

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